Saint Augustine's University dealing with financial woes: How did we get here?

An arson investigation is underway at Saint Augustine's University. WRAL anchor/reporter Dan Haggerty examined the history of the univeristy.
Posted 7/18/2025, 11:54:21 PM Updated 7/19/2025, 12:00:06 AM

REPLACE FORMER CHIEF KIM

BRADEN, WHO RETIRED.

A DORM AT SAINT AUGUSTINE'S

UNIVERSITY DAMAGED IN A FIRE

SKY 5 OVER THE CAMPUS THERE

TODAY. YOU CAN SEE THE BROKEN

WINDOWS, AN ARSON INVESTIGATION

RIGHT NOW IS UNDERWAY ON TOP

OF THAT, POLICE ARRESTED A MAN

FOR TRYING TO STEAL FROM THE

UNIVERSITY'S ACCUSED OF TRYING

TO STEAL COPPER WIRE FROM HVAC

UNITS. WE DON'T KNOW IF THE 2

INCIDENTS ARE LINKED TO DO.

WE KNOW THE FIRE HAPPENED A

COUPLE WEEKS AGO. THE THEFT

HAPPENED JUST THIS MORNING,

BUT THIS IS SHAKEN. THE PEOPLE

WHO ARE WORKING ON THE CAMPUS

THERE, MANY OF WHOM ARE WORKING

MULTIPLE JOBS. WILL THE SCHOOL

SORTS OUT ITS FINANCIAL ISSUES?

JUST LISTEN TO HIM. AND WE

SPOKE TO TODAY. HE WORKED FOR

SECURITY, LANDSCAPING AND THE

TRACK TEAM. WORKING FOR FREE.

>> I HAD TO CUT OFF A LOT OF.

A WORKER WAS THE IT'S A HOLY

GOD. LET GO WAS IT WAS TOO MUCH

BICKERING.

>> IF YOU NEED TO LEAVE A NOTE

IT, BUT I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M

HERE TO SHIP, GO DOWN.

>> SO THE FINANCIAL AND LEGAL

TROUBLES INVOLVING SENDING US

TONS GO BACK. MANY, MANY YEARS.

MANY PROBLEMS, LAWSUITS.

THE FIGHT TO KEEP THEIR

ACCREDITATION. SO WE'D LIKE TO

ANSWER THE QUESTION BEFORE WE

MOVE ON HAS TO HOW DID WE GET

HERE?

>> IT WAS BACK IN 2014 WHEN THE

UNIVERSITY'S PRESIDENT RESIGNED

AMID CONTROVERSY A FEDERAL

INVESTIGATION ACCREDITATION

QUESTIONS AND SEVERAL FINANCIAL

ISSUES SO FAMILIAR, FAST

FORWARD TO 2016 SACKS PLACE

SAINT AUG'S ON PROBATION CITING

FINANCIAL ISSUES 2 YEARS AFTER

THAT IN 2018, THEY DID GET A

LITTLE HELP. THE SCHOOL

RESTRUCTURED ITS FINANCES,

BUYING THEM SOME TIME TO GET

BACK ON TRACK TODAY. OF COURSE,

A HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF. THE PLAN

GOT SAINT AUG'S OFF PROBATION

IN DECEMBER OF 2018, BUT WITHIN

A MONTH IT LOST ANOTHER

PRESIDENT. THIS TIME TO

RETIREMENT. IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR

LATER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

PANDEMIC. A NEW PRESIDENT

URGING THAT FAIL TOOK OVER JUST

AS THE SCHOOL TOOK DRAMATIC

STEPS TO STAY AFLOAT, REDUCING

STAFF THEN TRAGICALLY LESS THAN

A YEAR INTO HIS LEADERSHIP.

DOCTOR, IRVING MCPHAIL WAS

INFECTED WITH THE VIRUS,

OFF-CAMPUS. AND LAST NIGHT DIED

FROM COMPLICATIONS OF COVID.

>> MONTHS LATER IT WAS MAKE

SALES WIFE WHO TOOK A JOB AS

PRESIDENT, WHO BETTER THAN ME

TO STEP IN. AND I WANT MY

BACKGROUND. MY FAMILY ALLERGY

WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THEY

WERE TAKEN. THE UNIVERSITY IN

2022. SACKS PUT SAINT

AUGUSTIN'S BACK ON PROBATION

AND IN 2023, ANOTHER SURPRISING

HEADLINE. THE ABRUPT FIRING OF

DOCTOR MCPHAIL AND SHE TOLD ME

THIS ALL STEMMED FROM AN

OCTOBER BOARD MEETING WHERE SHE

AND A COLLEAGUE WERE BERATED BY

A BOARD MEMBER AND THEN THINGS

TURNED UGLY. THAT FAIL SUED

THE UNIVERSITY CLAIMING A

HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT.

WRAL INVESTIGATES FOUND THE

SCHOOL TO COUNTY 7 MILLION

DOLLAR LINE OF CREDIT AND WAS

FAILING TO PAY A LOT OF BILLS.

$430,000 FOR STUDENT HEALTH

INSURANCE PLANS ON PAGE

$598,000 FOR A NEW TURF FIELD

UNPAID UNIVERSITY STAFF

PAYCHECKS WERE DELAYED AND SAKS

VOTED TO REMOVE SAINT

AUGUSTIN'S. ACCREDITATION IS

BEEN SO BAD. STUDENTS EVEN HELD

A CANDLELIGHT VIGIL FOR THE

SCHOOL. PRAY FOR OUR

UNIVERSITY.

>> PRAY FOR THE CURRENT

STUDENTS WHO ARE WORKING

TIRELESSLY THEN IN NOVEMBER THE

SCHOOL ANNOUNCED IT WOULD CUT

ITS STAFF IN HALF A PART OF AN

EFFORT TO SAVE 17 MILLION

DOLLARS. 2 MONTHS LATER, THE

UNIVERSITY THEN TRIED TO RAISE

MONEY WITH A 70 MILLION DOLLAR

LAND LEASE DEAL WITH THE

ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE

RAISED CONCERNS AND THE DEAL

WAS MODIFIED. THEN MORE

LAWSUITS OVER UNPAID BILLS.

2 OF THEM TOTALLY 18 MILLION

DOLLARS. MEANTIME, THE BACK

AND FORTH CONTINUED OVER THE

SCHOOL'S ACCREDITATION. A BOARD

VOTE IN DECEMBER. IT WAS DENIED

AN APPEAL IN MARCH DENIED AGAIN

IN ARBITRATION PANEL EARLIER

THIS WEEK. ONCE MORE DENIED.

BUT UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT MARCUS

BURGESS MAINTAINS SAINT AUGS

IS NOT CLOSING CLASSES WILL

CONTINUE AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT

HERE.

>> I GET IT. THAT'S A LOT.

IT IS A LONG STORY. LONG

TIMELINE AND IT'S BEEN AN

ABSOLUTE SAGA. BUT IT IS

IMPORTANT THAT WE EXPLAIN AND

TALK ABOUT WHY THIS STORY

MATTERS SO MUCH. WHY WE KEEP

TALKING ABOUT SEEING A GUST

AND UNIVERSITY IN THIS IN THIS

DETAIL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE

SCHOOL'S PAST, WE'RE REMINDED

NOT ONLY OF ITS STRUGGLES BUT

OF ITS SUCCESS, US SOME OF THEM

INCREDIBLE SUCCESSES. ANNA

JULIA COOPER. SHE GRADUATED

BACK WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS KNOWN

AS OBERLIN COLLEGE. SHE WAS

BORN A SLAVE BECAME JUST THE

4TH BLACK WOMAN TO EARN A PH D

JOE HOLD JUNIOR IS A SAINT

AUGUSTIN'S GRAB. HIS FAMILY WAS

THE FIRST TO CHALLENGE RALLY

SEGREGATED PUBLIC SCHOOL

SYSTEM. NOT LONG AFTER THE

FIRST BLACK STUDENT WAS

ENROLLED AT A RALLY ELEMENTARY

SCHOOL DOCTOR BENJAMIN CHAVIS

WAS AN ASSISTANT TO MARTIN

LUTHER KING JUNIOR AND HE WENT

ON TO SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR OF THE NAACP ROUTH

CAMPBELL WAS THE FIRST BLACK

PERSON TO HOLD STATEWIDE

ELECTED OFFICE IN OUR STATE

HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA, HE WON

THE RACE FOR STATE AUDITOR BACK

IN 1992. BURSCH ON JACKSON.

BETTER KNOWN AS BATMAN WAS A

WORLD CLASS TRACK ATHLETE

ATHLETE, HIS SIGNATURE EVENT

WAS THE 400 METER HURDLES.

HE WON SEVERAL WORLD

CHAMPIONSHIPS, INCLUDING A

BRONZE MEDAL. JACKSON LATER

COACHED AT THE SCHOOL ALONGSIDE

GEORGE WILLIAMS. WILLIAMS

COACH, THE TRACK TEAM TO 16

DIVISION, 2 NATIONAL

CHAMPIONSHIPS AND THEN HIS NAME

GOT KIND OF CAUGHT UP IN THE

SCHOOL STRUGGLES. HE FILED A

LAWSUIT AFTER SAINT AUG'S.

LET HIM GO BACK IN 2020.

BUT LOOK, THE POINT OF ALL THAT

IS EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE COME FROM

SAINT AUGUSTIN'S AND HAVE BEEN

FOR 158 YEARS. IT'S UP TO THE

SCHOOL'S LEADERS TO UPHOLD THAT

LEGACY AND IT'S UP TO THE